Apparently, an alternative title to follow up with yesterday’s entry is Size is a matter of opinion pt.2 (see part one if you missed it). Results of the survey (thank you!) showed pretty much what I expected. Namely that measurements are all over the map. Which begs the question: if consumers can’t agree on the measures that constitute a size 10 or 12, how can manufacturers be expected to size according to consumer expectations? I’m going to go out on a limb here and speak for the community by saying we’ll make you a deal. As soon as you all can come to agreement on measurements is when we’ll start sizing to meet your expectations. heh
Seriously, here’s a rundown of responses for size 10. The majority is in dark green; significant measures (over 10%) are in light green:
If majority rules, a size 10 has a 36″ bust, 28″ waist and a 40″ hip. She’s five foot five or six inches tall and weighs 140 pounds. Hmmm. In order to size to consumer expectations, one would need to cut a 10 to fit a range of five inches for the bust, seven inches for the waist and another five inches for the hip. The figure height varies three inches and her weight spread is 30 pounds. Also note we still have a rough hourglass proportion (slightly bottom heavy) at work. Consumers often claim that only X percentage is an hourglass but aggregating responses shows the clear pattern.
Yes, I realize that responses grouped by correspondent rather than aggregates will better illustrate shaping differences, maybe I’ll write more about that tomorrow.
Here’s a rundown of responses for size 12:
The results for the size 12 show the same pattern except we’re waffling on waist size, it’s 30″ to 31″. Our height range has increased an inch but the median is the same height as the 10. Weight is also a repeat, our average is still 140 but the weight span has increased to a 35 pound spread. The outliers (weight of 170 pounds!) is very telling.
Question: having this information, do you agree it is ideal that we use the majority opinion to determine sizes? If so, let’s filter this backwards using the example of the size 10 for the basis. Out of kindness we’ll disregard that the size 12 is jumping 2″ in bust and 2 to 3 inches in waist measurements over the ten because this weakens consumer arguments. This is how sizes play out, the proportion being Bust is 8″ larger than the waist, waist is zero and hip is 12″ larger than the waist (B:+8 W:0 H:+12):
- size 0: 31-23-35
- size 2: 32-24-36
- size 4: 33-25-37
- size 6: 34-26-38
- size 8: 35-27-39
- size 10: 36-28-40 (B:+8 W:0 H:+12)
- size 12: 38-30/31-41 (note: bust increases 2″, waist is 2″-3″ over size 10)
I can tell you right now that the hip of the size 0 is still too large. For the sake of argument, I’ll concede that a size zero -based on survey responses- is 35″ -and people wonder why we have minus sizes? It seems clear to me that we’re sizing to divergent expectations and have had to create new minus sizes for the tiny girls.
I’ll use myself as an example to explain how gaining weight changes the proportions of a body. When I’m perfectly height and weight proportionate, my bust is larger than my hips by nearly three inches, I’m the reverse of the survey proportions (B:+12 W:0 H:+9). I’ll bet you think that as I gain, I’d get heavier up top but nope. As I gain weight, I gain proportionately more on my hips. Being 10 or 15 pounds overweight, my bust and hips are equal now. You may be the opposite of me. When slender, your chest is smaller than your hip but you tend to gain weight in your trunk and over time, your chest measure is larger or equivalent to your hip. This is how “Apples” are shaped.
Let’s say that manufacturers had a magic wand and could size 10’s and 12’s to satisfy the proportions of survey respondents. This still wouldn’t make everyone happy because as you gain weight, the relationship between your relative proportions changes. Manufacturers can only hit the aggregates, the mean of the size spread. They have to devise a sizing scale based on averages. It would be impossible to calculate changing figure proportions of consumers singly.
This is why you may have to change brands as you gain or lose weight. If you can grab the next larger or smaller size of the same brand hanging on the rack as you gain or lose weight, this would be a happy coincidence but it is not a reasonable expectation because your proportions evolve as you gain and lose weight.
Just curious, how many others expected the same result and conclusions?
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FAQs
2. If majority rules, a size 10 has a 36″ bust, 28″ waist and a 40″ hip. She's five foot five or six inches tall and weighs 140 pounds.
What are size 10 measurements in inches? ›
BODY MEASUREMENTS
US Size | Size | Bust (inches) |
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6 | S | 34 1/4-35 |
8 | M | 35 1/2-37 |
10 | M | 37 1/2-39 |
12 | L | 39 1/2-41 |
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What size waist is a size 10? ›
Hitched's Women's Dress Size Guide
Size | Bust | Waist |
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6 | 80.5cm | 62.5cm |
8 | 33″ | 26″ |
83cm | 65cm |
10 | 35″ | 28″ |
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How big is a size 10 woman? ›
Details
Dimension/size | 4 | 10 |
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Bust | 32-34 | 36½ |
Waist | 22-24½ | 29 |
Hip | 33-35½ | 39 |
Back-waist length | 14½ | 16 |
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What is P in size chart? ›
PETITE. Our petite sizes generally fit best for frames under 164 cm, with a more appropriate sleeve and torso length and leg inseam. Look for the “P” (i.e. “34P”) when viewing an item.
What is size 10 full measurement? ›
Dress size chart
Bust | Waist | US size |
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90-93 cm (35"-36.5") | 73-77 cm (28"-30") | 8 |
94-97 cm (36.5"-38") | 78-81 cm (30"-32") | 10 |
98-102 cm (38"-40") | 82-85 cm (32"-33.5") | 12 |
103-107 cm (40"-42") | 86-90 cm (33.5"-35.5") | 14 |
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What are size 10 measurements? ›
size 8: 35-27-39. size 10: 36-28-40 (B:+8 W:0 H:+12)
Is a 27 waist a size 10? ›
US 8 - either UK 10 (Waist 27”/28" and Bust 35”/36") or UK 12 (Waist 29”/30" and Bust 37”/38") US 10 - either UK 12 (Waist 29”/30" and Bust 37”/38") or UK 14 (Waist 31”/32" and Bust 39”/40")
Is a 34 waist a size 10? ›
A jean with 34 inches (ca. 86 centimeters) waist approximately corresponds to a US size 20 or XL size.
Is a 30 waist a size 10? ›
A 30 inch waist typically corresponds to a US dress size of 10-12 or 40-42 in Euro sizes.
Mondor
Size | Height | Weight |
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6-8 | 43" - 52" / 109 - 133cm | 50 - 65lbs / 23 - 30kg |
8-10 | 48" - 57" / 121 - 145cm | 60 - 75lbs / 27 - 34kg |
10-12 | 52" - 60" / 133 - 154cm | 70 - 85lbs / 32 - 38kg |
12-14 | 56" - 62" / 142 - 158cm | 80 - 100lbs / 36 - 45kg |
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How tall will I be if I wear size 10? ›
Average shoe size by height
Height | Shoe size |
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5'5″ or shorter | 7 to 9 |
5'6″ to 5'9″ | 9.5 to 10.5 |
5'10” to 6'2″ | 11 to 12.5 |
6'3″ and taller | 13 to 20+ |
Aug 7, 2019
What size is considered chubby? ›
This is what might politely be called the chubby category, with body mass indexes (a measure of weight for height) of 25 to 30. A woman, for instance, who is 5 feet 4 inches tall and weighs between 146 and 175 pounds.
Do petite sizes run smaller in the waist? ›
Although it might feel like it, being petite doesn't just mean you've got short legs. You're a bit shorter all over. Petite sizing adjusts everything proportionately. That means the waist sits higher, the shoulders are narrower, and the sleeves are shorter, as well as the shorter inside leg (cries in 27 inches).
What is a women's size P? ›
Sizes including a “P” indicate that they are petite, and they're available from your favorite brands, including Charter Club, MICHAEL Michael Kors and LAUREN Ralph Lauren. Shopping Tip: Before you shop, get the 411 on what styles look best on your body.
What does P mean after size? ›
Petite sizes are designed for women 5'4” and under, regardless of their size. In the petite category, sizes range from extra-small to plus-size. They also have a “P” label to illustrate a smaller and proportioned fit.
Is size 10 medium or large? ›
I WONDER HOW MUCH IT SHRINKS?
WOMEN'S SIZES: |
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Size: | Hips: |
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Medium | 8-10 | 37-38" |
Large | 12-14 | 39-41" |
XLarge | 16-18 | 42-44" |
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What is a size 10 in plus size? ›
Is size 10 small or large? ›
What dress size is a 'Medium'? This varies from brand to brand and by country. Some stores will consider a medium to be a size 10, while others a size 12-14. As an average, a Medium is likely to be a around a size 12.
Is size 10 a large or XL? ›
Women's Size Chart
Size | Bust | Waist |
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S (4-6) | 34-35″ | 27½-28½″ |
M (8-10) | 36-37″ | 29½-30½″ |
L (12-14) | 38½-40″ | 32-33½″ |
XL (16-18) | 42-43½″ | 34-36″ |
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What is a size 10 waist in inches jeans? ›
Women's jeans size chart
Waist (inches/cm) | UK | USA |
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26 / 66 | 8 | 2/4 |
27 / 69 | 8/10 | 4 |
28 / 71 | 10 | 4/6 |
29 / 74 | 10/12 | 6 |
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Is a 28 a size 10? ›
To further muddle the equation, jean sizes sometimes go by a numerical digit which measures the size of your waist in inches. For example, a size 10, a medium, and a waist size 28 are all the same size…
What size waist is a size 10 pants? ›
Women's Pant Size Conversion Chart – Width/Waist
Your Waist in Inches | Misses Size | Pant Size (W/L) |
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28 - 29" | 6 | 28 |
29 - 30" | 8 | 29 |
30 - 31" | 10 | 30 |
31 - 32" | 12 | 31 |
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What is the ideal waist size for a woman? ›
For your best health, your waist should be less than 40 inches around for men, and less than 35 inches for women, although it may vary depending on race or ethnicity. If it's larger than that, you may want to talk with your doctor about what your next steps are, including losing weight.
Is a 28 inch waist a 10? ›
Size 28 is usually a size 10.
What number size is a 32 waist? ›
Women's Size Chart (Clothes)
Size | US Women's Size | Waist in Inches |
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M | 10 | 29 |
L | 12 | 30. 5 |
L | 14 | 32 |
XL | 16 | 33.5 |
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What is a size 10 in Levi's women's jeans? ›
Kohl's Levi's Women's Clothing Size Chart
Juniors' | Women's | Waist |
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5 | 4 | 25.5" - 26.5" |
7 | 6 | 26.5" - 27.5" |
9 | 8 | 27.5" - 28.5" |
11 | 10 | 29" - 30.5" |
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Does a 30 equal size 10? ›
(In case you're not familiar with these sizes... a size 27 is generally a size 4, and a size 30 is generally a size 10.
What is the average body size of a woman? ›
Today, the average American woman is 5'4″, has a waist size of 34-35 inches and weighs between 140-150 lbs, with a dress size of 12-14. Fifty years ago, the average woman was 5'3-4″ with a waist size of approximately 24-25″, she weighed about 120 lbs and wore a size 8.
What size is a 27 inch waist? A 27-inch waist typically corresponds to a US dress size of 2-4, which is about 32-34 in Euro sizes. Additionally, this waist circumference should put you in an international size Extra Small (XS) for women's clothing.
What size is a 200 lb woman? ›
Size Chart
Size | Weight | Height |
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Small | 100 - 120 lbs | 4'11" - 5'4" |
A | 96 - 175 lbs | 5'0 - 5'10" |
A/B | 160 - 220 lbs | 4'11" - 5'5" |
C/D | 215 - 275 lbs | 5'4" - 6'0" |
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What size does a 170 lb woman wear? ›
The average weight for women is around 170 pounds. With these measurements, the typical American woman wears a large to extra large pant size, or between a size 18 and 20.
Is a size 10 chubby? ›
In standard women's clothing sizes, Size 10 is considered “Medium”. A woman who is 4′ 10″ or less and wears size 10 Petite clothing would likely be considered overweight.
How long should your foot be for size 10? ›
Inches to Women's Shoe Size Conversion Chart
Inches | Centimeters | U.S. & Canada |
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10 | 25.4 | 9.5 |
10-3/16 | 25.9 | 10 |
10-5/16 | 26.2 | 10.5 |
10-1/2 | 26.7 | 11 |
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Can you tell your height by shoe size? ›
Shoe size generally is proportional to height, so it's used in many height-predicting formulas out there. A lot of the time, these formulas take into account the parents' height, as well. However, the results are usually far from reliable. Prior to puberty, many kids haven't had a major growth spurt yet.
How tall will a girl be with size 10 feet? ›
So, for example, if someone's shoe size is 10, we would expect them to 67.44 inches tall.
How much weight do you need to lose to drop a dress size? ›
You can drop a dress size (anywhere from 10 to 15 pounds, or about an inch or two from your bust and hips) and be special-occasion slim in only six weeks.
What is the most attractive dress size? ›
The majority of the men (nearly 86% of them) preferred a woman with a dress size 14 to 16.
How many pounds is chubby? ›
Adult Body Mass Index
Height | Weight Range | Considered |
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5′ 9″ | 125 lbs to 168 lbs | Healthy weight |
169 lbs to 202 lbs | Overweight |
203 lbs or more | Obesity |
271 lbs or more | Class 3 Obesity |
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PETITES
SIZE | 0P | 10P |
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WAIST | 24½ | 29½ |
HIP | 34½ | 39½ |
What size and weight is considered petite? ›
Petite refers to stature not weight. Most people still think petite means skinny when in fact petite has nothing to do with weight. Petite is the term used in the fashion industry to describe a woman who is 5'3 tall or under. Petite women come in all shapes and sizes, whether they're a size 4 or 14.
What is the best length for petite? ›
Dresses that hit at your knee or slightly above are the most flattering for petite types. You don't want to go too short, however.
What is the average jean size for a woman? ›
What is the average women's jeans size in the US? Most women wear a jeans size of 34×30. (waist/length).
Do petite sizes run smaller than regular sizes? ›
Petite sizing can be limiting for those of us who have bigger busts or curvier figures, and may not always make the most comfortable fit. But if you're shopping for petite clothing, the most obvious thing you'll notice—and the most important—is that sleeves, dresses, tops, and bottoms are all shorter in length.
What size is a large petite? ›
Petite Size Chart
SIZE | S – Petite | L – Petite |
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BUST | 82cm | 94cm |
32.0in | 37.0in |
WAIST | 64cm | 76cm |
25.0in | 30.0in |
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How big is size p? ›
Ring Size Conversion
Circumference | Ring Size |
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(mm) | UK | US |
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55.1mm | O | 7 |
56.3mm | P | 7 1/2 |
57.2mm | Q | 8 5/8 |
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What is size P in US? ›
UK TO US RING SIZE CONVERSION CHART
UK SIZE | APPROX US SIZE | APPROX EU SIZE |
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O | 7 1/2 | 55 1/4 |
P | 8 | 56 1/4 |
Q | 8 1/2 | 57 1/2 |
R | 8 3/4 | 58 1/2 |
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What is P in length? ›
The picometre (international spelling as used by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures; SI symbol: pm) or picometer (American spelling) is a unit of length in the International System of Units (SI), equal to 1×10−12 m, or one trillionth (11000000000000) of a metre, which is the SI base unit of length.
What is a size 10 waist in inches? ›
US 10 - either UK 12 (Waist 29”/30" and Bust 37”/38") or UK 14 (Waist 31”/32" and Bust 39”/40")
Women's Jeans Size Chart
Jean Size Women (W) | US Misses Size | Waist (Inches) |
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28 | 6 | 28.5” - 29.5” |
29 | 8 | 29.5” - 30.5” |
30 | 10 | 30.5” - 31.5” |
31 | 12 | 31.5” - 32.5” |
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What is a size 10 shoe in inches? ›
Inches to Women's Shoe Size Conversion Chart
Inches | Centimeters | U.S. & Canada |
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10 | 25.4 | 9.5 |
10-3/16 | 25.9 | 10 |
10-5/16 | 26.2 | 10.5 |
10-1/2 | 26.7 | 11 |
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Is size 10 a 30 inch waist? ›
What size is a 30 inch waist? A 30 inch waist typically corresponds to a US dress size of 10-12 or 40-42 in Euro sizes. Additionally, this waist circumference should put you in an international size Medium for other women's clothing.
Is a 28 inch waist a size 10? ›
What size is a 28 inch waist? A 28-inch waist typically corresponds to a US dress size of 8, which is about a 38 in Euro sizes.
Is size 10 Small or medium? ›
What dress size is a 'Medium'? This varies from brand to brand and by country. Some stores will consider a medium to be a size 10, while others a size 12-14. As an average, a Medium is likely to be a around a size 12.
Why is my waist size bigger than my jean size? ›
For example, a pair of jeans labeled as a size 32 waist may actually measure 34 inches. This is mostly because jeans with lower rises measure larger than the natural waist size.
Are size 30 jeans a 10? ›
(In case you're not familiar with these sizes... a size 27 is generally a size 4, and a size 30 is generally a size 10.
Is size 10 in jeans overweight? ›
In standard women's clothing sizes, Size 10 is considered “Medium”. A woman who is 4′ 10″ or less and wears size 10 Petite clothing would likely be considered overweight.
Is size 10 jeans plus size? ›
Clothing stores can make it difficult to put a number on plus-size. Some departments may designate a size 12 as plus-size while others use a size 14. But according to Modeling Wisdom, plus-size models often fall into the range of sizes 8 to 12.
How tall should you be if your shoe size is 10? ›
Average shoe size by height
Height | Shoe size |
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5'5″ or shorter | 7 to 9 |
5'6″ to 5'9″ | 9.5 to 10.5 |
5'10” to 6'2″ | 11 to 12.5 |
6'3″ and taller | 13 to 20+ |
Aug 7, 2019
Shoe Size Conversion Chart (US, UK, EU)
US Men's Shoe | US Women's Shoe | EU Shoe Size |
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8.5 | 10 | 41.5 |
9 | 10.5 | 41.5 |
9.5 | 11 | 42.5 |
10 | 11.5 | 43.5 |
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What is the width of a size 10 shoe? ›
Women's Shoe Width Chart
Size | A (narrow) | C/D (wide) |
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8 | 3.2" | 3.95" |
9 | 3.3" | 4.05" |
10 | 3.45" | 4.2" |
11 | 3.55" | 4.3" |
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